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Season 5, Episode 1

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Preserving Black Heritage in the U.S. South

One of the signs memorializing the 1955 murder of Emmett Till weighs nearly 500 pounds and is designed to absorb a rifle round. It’s the fourth version of the sign, the others having been vandalized and riddled with bullet holes.

How can communities recognize and preserve vulnerable Black heritage sites without placing them more at risk? New alumna Kira Williams shares her views with co-host Cindy Olnick on a visit to L.A.’s St. Elmo Village, a historic site of art and healing. They explore the site and discuss Kira’s thesis, Being a Part of the Narrative: How to Preserve Black Heritage in the U.S. South While Mitigating Violence and Facilitating Change?

  • Historic black-and-white photo of people walking through a neighborhood, some carrying American flags.
  • Color photo of a small white wooden house with brown trim, with a metal roof, surrounded by trees.
  • Color image of a brown metal sign with the words, "Selma to Montgomery Trail: Campsit 2, Rosie Steele Farm, March 22, 2965"
  • Color photo of a white wooden house with light green trim and a metal roof, partially overgrown and flanked by trees.
  • Color photo of the front of a brown brick church with a tall tower and sculpture on the front.
  • Historic black-and-white photo of a young African American boy and his mother, both smiling.
  • Historic black-and-white photo of an African American man and woman next to the mutilated corpse of a young man. The adult male stares straight into the camera.
  • Color photo of a pink sign reading "River Site" riddled with bullet holes.
  • Color photo of a tall black sign reading "Graball Landing" with smaller text, with flowers underneath.
  • Color photo of painted walkway surrounded by trees and a hand-painted sign reading "St. Elmo Village."
  • Color photo of a brown historic bungalow, painted walkway, and seating area under a tree.
  • Color photo of brightly painted driveway with a long brown building to the left.
  • Color photo of found-object sculpture resembling a person, in front of a bungalow.
  • Color photo of a man's face painted onto the side of a building, with plants in front.
  • Color photo of mural showing three brightly colored faces, with cacti in front.

Featuring

Kira Williams, a Black woman with long hair, smiling in front of a fountain.
Kira Williams

Kira Williams is a heritage conservationist focused on the salvation and protection of Black heritage sites in the U.S. South. She was born in Houston, Texas and came to Los Angeles to complete her dual master’s degrees in Urban Planning and Heritage Conservation at USC. Kira just completed a one-year fellowship at the Getty Conservation Institute, working on the African American Historic Places, Los Angeles Project, where she and her team worked to designate and protect African American neighborhoods and heritage sites in the city of Los Angeles. She is now striving for opportunities to continue her research and work in Black heritage studies.


Learn More

Thesis: Being a Part of the Narrative: How to Preserve Black Heritage in the U.S. South While Mitigating Violence and Facilitating Change? by Kira Lavonne Williams

African American Historic Places Los Angeles

St. Elmo Village

54 Miles to Home, a film by Claire Haughey, 2021 (27:55)

Filming History: The Selma to Montgomery March Campsites,” Phillip Howard for the Conservation Fund, February 21, 2022

[Free account or subscription] “Public Memories. Private Struggles: With civil rights education under threat, a preservationist helps Black families save key sites in the South,” Story by Robert Samuels, Photography by Michael S. Williamson, The Washington Post, June 22, 2024

Selma to Montgomery National Historic Trail, National Park Service

Emmett Till Memory Project

Emmett Till Interpretive Center

Graball Landing” (about bulletproof sign), by Dave Tell for the Emmett Till Memory Project

Emmett Till’s Death Inspired a Movement,” National Museum of African American History & Culture

USC Heritage Conservation Programs


Your Hosts

Photo of Trudi Sandmeier
Trudi Sandmeier

Co-host Trudi Sandmeier is the Associate Dean for Academic Affairs, Director of Graduate Programs in Heritage Conservation, and Professor of Practice at the USC School of Architecture. Her work centers on the conservation of the recent past and the impact of under-recognized communities on the historic built environment. Read more in her USC faculty bio.

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Cindy Olnick

Co-host Cindy Olnick serves as both Associate Director of Heritage Conservation at USC and a communications consultant for heritage conservation, historic preservation, and the built environment. Read more in her USC faculty bio.

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Willa Seidenberg

Podcast producer Willa Seidenberg taught audio journalism and podcasting at USC’s Annenberg School of Communication and Journalism, while pursuing a USC Master of Heritage Conservation degree. She retired from teaching and earned her degree in 2023. 

A 20-year broadcast journalist and an inaugural fellow with USC’s Center for Excellence in Teaching, Willa founded Annenberg Radio News, the university’s radio news operation; and Intersections South LA, a reporting lab and community website for South Los Angeles.

With photographer William Short, Willa is the author of two oral history/photo projects: A Matter of Conscience: GI Resistance During the Vietnam War and Memories of the American War: Stories From Viet Nam.

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